Serban

Hi,

Been playing around a lot with the Deluge lately and, as a guitar player, I absolutely love keyboard mode! However, in terms of assigning parameters for a more-or-less "manual" and musical performance experience, I'm finding the current parameter Learn implementation to be a bit difficult to tame. By that, I mean I would love to be able to configure the "depth" by which I can learn a specific parameter. Currently, the only way I've found to do this is to assign the parameter to ENV2, control the modulation depth therein and then Learn the SUST param of ENV2 to one of the gold knobs or an external midi device. As an example, I'm doing this for pitch bend:

1. go to ENV2, set ATTACK and DECAY to 0, leave SUSTAIN at 25 and Learn it to your favorite gold knob.
2. go to the global trAnspose of the synth patch, set it at your preferred "neutral natural pitch" point (e.g. 0)
3. while still on the trAn value, then press the select knob to assign modulation and scroll right to ENV2. A depth of 12 gives you "roughly" one full tone up and one full tone down when moving the gold knob
4. tune to your preference

However this unfortunately means I can't use ENV2 for anything else, and it kills an entire envelope just to "tame" one parameter control. ENV1 is unusable for this because it also binds to volume.

If there were a config option when learning to set the "depth" (and potentially offset as well) by which a midi CC or gold knob position controls a parameter (e.g. with interpolation happening behind the scenes) then it would be much easier to set "musically relevant" boundaries when performing. This also applies to vibrato, for example, which gets very deep above 1/3 of the way up - desirable in some cases, but requiring a lot of finesse to control in others. If we could set learn depth, I believe this could significantly enhance tactile control over one's performance.

Thanks for a great piece of kit and a lovely community to come with it!

As far as I'm aware, all we can currently do is Learn the transpose parameter (trAn) of either OSC or the global transpose of the synth itself to one of the gold knobs. Unfortunately, this results in cycling through the whole pitch range (i.e. from uber low to uber high).

I just fiddled with a workaround:

1. go to ENV2, set ATTACK and DECAY to 0, leave SUSTAIN at 25 and Learn it to your favorite gold knob.
2. go to the global trAnspose of the synth patch, set it at your preferred "neutral natural pitch" point (e.g. 0)
3. while still on the trAn value, then press the select knob to assign modulation and scroll right to ENV2. A depth of 12 gives you "roughly" one full tone up and one full tone down when moving the gold knob
4. tune to your preference

Unfortunately this doesn't bounce back to center as a normal pitch bend control would, so you'll have to use your ears and go back to center manually. The LED indicators also help, but don't blink at center as they would for synced params like stutter. I don't know if having it bounce back is currently possible, or even desirable, seeing as you might want to keep the note bent without unexpectedly having it bounce back after x seconds.

Another caveat is you lose ENV2 as a modulation source for anything else, unless you actually want to control other params off of that same knob at the same time as pitch shifting. Sadly can't use ENV1 for this as afaik it's hard-mapped to the patch volume.

TBH I would love to see "learn depth" implemented - both for on-device params and for external midi. That way you could gauge how much a full turn of the knob would impact the particular param you're trying to control.

Fair play, upvoted for external midi CC scaling. Would still love to have this on the gold knobs as well!