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About that display...

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I keep stumbling upon peoples complaints about that tiny display and how the deluge would be perfect with a bigger one and more information on it.

I just really feel the need to express my utter satisfaction with the display, in my opinion it is one of the key features of the unit. You see, when I researched different grooveboxes my head spun with all the facts and details about the different units, so I took a step back, grabbed a piece of paper and wrote down why I wanted to have a groovebox and which functions it should have.

And pretty quickly I realized that the main reason to go dawless was to get away from that damn screen because it totally screws up my creativity. Theres just something about screens that switches my head into a different mode thats pretty useless for creative processes.

As soon as I understood that, the question of which groovebox to pick got a whole lot easier: An MPC One was no option because of its display and menu diving. Same with the Polyend Tracker.

Since having the deluge, making music feels like playing an instrument again, instead of working in an office.

So Synthstrom, take my heartfelt THANK YOU for that tiny display and keep doing what you're doing. You're definitely on the right track and so good at staying true to it.

Feel free to disagree, but lets spread some positivity! :smile:

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    volstehvolsteh CroatiaPosts: 192

    I have to agree, totally love the screen, it is completely sufficient for the needs of the machine.

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    ridsrids Posts: 7

    I am 50/50 on this, so I agree on some stuff and disagree on other things related to the screen debate.

    I like the fact that Synthstrom attempted to go with a minimal screen like this with pretty good success for a lot of it's features.

    I would've preferred a screen with more info and reinforcement for where I am at a moment in time of using it. I think the sequencer aspect of the Deluge doesn't necessarily need a screen, but I still think it would benefit from it. I find the navigation fluid for sequencing, yet when I'm scrolling between steps 1-16, 17-32, etc. up to step 64 or 128, I find that I can get a little lost. Most of the functions are fairly straight forward for the sequencer and the provided screen is fine.

    I think the Deluge could benefit from a screen when editing synth/sample parameters. Because of this, I choose to use my Deluge for it's sequencing, which imo is it's strength. With that said, I just bought a Deluge overlay from Oversynth and that would probably help me out with all the functions of the synth. The overlay is very convoluted and not so nice to look at, but I think it should help with some workflow related things.

    The key is about workflow. The Deluge has a pretty nice workflow, but a little bigger of a screen with more info on it would've been nice. I equate the lack of a more informative screen to looking at person with a face mask on. You can get an idea of who they are by looking at their eyes, but you don't really know who they are like you would if they had no mask on. A 4 digit LED screen gives you an idea, but many times you are left guessing where you are in the system.

    At the same time, I don't want to complain or dump on Synthstrom for not creating one with a more informative screen, because I think the Deluge is genius with what they created. But it's almost too genius in a sense. It's the same feeling I get when I want an instrument to do a certain thing well instead of a bunch of things all at one time, because it can muddy up the workflow of other functions.

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    LegsMechanicalLegsMechanical United StatesBeta Tester Posts: 13

    If the D didn’t have a screen at launch, it’d still be great (there’s a ton of functionality that a screen is not strictly necessary for). If they added the screen that’s in there now in a hardware revision, ppl would be over the moon to have it.

    That’s how I prefer to think about it.

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    volstehvolsteh CroatiaPosts: 192

    If there ever gonna be a Deluge MK2 I would vote for this screen :p :

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    MaxOSMaxOS Los AngelesPosts: 47

    People forget that the keypad acts as a second screen.

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    KenoubiKenoubi United StatesPosts: 43

    I sometimes wish the screen had more than 4 characters, and perhaps more segments per character as @volsteh mentioned. Would be helpful for file browsing, and perhaps show what is being edited as well as its current value in various contexts (e.g. which synth parameter you're editing, or the synth name as well as the number of repeats when you press the audition pad in song mode). Never really find myself wishing for a full pixel-based display though.

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    Ian_JorgensenIan_Jorgensen Wellington, New ZealandPosts: 452
    edited March 28

    Keeps popping up on my FB feed. :D New screen idea?

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    IcoustikIcoustik NorwayModerator, Beta Tester, Mentor Posts: 775
    edited March 30

    @Ian_Jorgensen said:
    Keeps popping up on my FB feed. :D New screen idea?

    :D

    Post edited by Icoustik on

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    BolganiBolgani SuomiPosts: 25

    I also like the small screen without too much info. Well, volsteh's screen suggestion would be an improvement but I'm slowly learning to read this strange viking rune alphabet. :smile:

    But what kind of irritates me that when browsing through songs, the screen displays the END of the name, this kind of forces me to use 3-4 character names for everything so that I can find stuff quickly. Should display the start and then if you stayed in place maybe scroll to name back and forth. But that's a first world problem, really.

    "Since having the deluge, making music feels like playing an instrument again, instead of working in an office." And yes, this! Coming from Octatrack/Rytm combo it feels that Deluge's workflow supports experimentation and creativity so much better. And OT/Rytm have small screens but you were always a bit lost there also which pattern page you were on and what instrument you were tweaking and so on, can't really say it was more informative.

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    volstehvolsteh CroatiaPosts: 192
    edited March 31

    @Bolgani said:
    But what kind of irritates me that when browsing through songs, the screen displays the END of the name

    You can move the portion of text showed on the screen the with LR knob. Think what is happening is you browse trough same song versions so it jumps on the end of the name to show the version. Browsing with shift should skip the versions.

    Post edited by volsteh on

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    IcoustikIcoustik NorwayModerator, Beta Tester, Mentor Posts: 775

    @volsteh said:

    @Bolgani said:
    But what kind of irritates me that when browsing through songs, the screen displays the END of the name

    You can move the portion of text showed on the screen the with LR knob. Think what is happening is you browse trough same song versions so it jumps on the end of the name to show the version. Browsing with shift should skip the versions.

    Correct!

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    Bay_MudBay_Mud TorontoBeta Tester Posts: 6

    I love the workflow as is. I stare at screens all day already.

    @Ian_Jorgensen said:

    Keeps popping up on my FB feed. :D New screen idea?

    Ha. I get this ad too.

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    BolganiBolgani SuomiPosts: 25

    @volsteh said:

    @Bolgani said:
    But what kind of irritates me that when browsing through songs, the screen displays the END of the name

    You can move the portion of text showed on the screen the with LR knob. Think what is happening is you browse trough same song versions so it jumps on the end of the name to show the version. Browsing with shift should skip the versions.

    I knew about that LR knob, but yeah, actually all my longer names have versions, it seems that this was the case. (And all my first songs end up with "test" which makes identification even harder :D ). When there are no version it displays the name from start. Deluge wins again!

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    WillWill Middle of NowHere, CanadaPosts: 171
    edited April 4

    I often get frustrated when I'm trying to quickly find/read patch names, if they're longer scrolling type.....
    Frankly, when I'm trying to scroll through a couple of hundred slots to find a specific patch, it's a real pain in the ass, but I still LOVE my Deluge.

    Post edited by Will on
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