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Hardware life span?

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ZenoZeno NetherlandsPosts: 5
edited September 2019 in General Discussion

Just wondering, realisticly speaking : how long will updates continued to be made for the deluge?

The hardware patform is now about 3 years old.
different sources on the internet say the machine still has plenty of power left to continue to add plenty of features.

At the same time however I can imagine the company moving to a new hardware platform (just because they can, or perhaps to add more inputs and outputs)

Has there been any speak of the intentions with the current deluge hardware platform in this aspect?

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    udelugeudeluge germanyPosts: 61

    As long as they support bug fixes in the firmware of the old platform, I see no problem if there is a new hardware version of the deluge.

    Btw. I hope the new version will have a stereo effect loop that can be used the same way as the internal effects and don't waste space and money on a shitty internal speaker.

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    ZenoZeno NetherlandsPosts: 5

    Agreed with that. Its mostly me doubting to jump the gun and order one.. but since i've only recently found out about the device I am a bit scared that I'll order one now just to find out they'll be releasing new hardware next month (sort to speak)

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    ZenoZeno NetherlandsPosts: 5

    @udeluge said:

    Btw. I hope the new version will have a stereo effect loop that can be used the same way as the internal effects and don't waste space and money on a shitty internal speaker.

    In theory they could build an addon for the current hardware to do just that. (having not yet seen the itnernals in full detail I have no way of knowing if it can actually be physically extended in a way

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    p_watsp_wats TorontoPosts: 111

    I'd be incredibly surprised if they announced a new hardware device in the next few years. Firmware 3.0 was just released and the new faceplates include shortcuts for things that haven't been added yet (Wavetable, x & y), so there are plenty of updates to come.

    I agree as well that even if they do release something new, that doesn't mean this version is dead. I can't see a team so passionate about their code and feature set letting anything languish.

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    amiga909amiga909 Central EuropePosts: 1,078

    @p_wats said:
    I'd be incredibly surprised if they announced a new hardware device in the next few years. Firmware 3.0 was just released and the new faceplates include shortcuts for things that haven't been added yet (Wavetable, x & y), so there are plenty of updates to come.

    true.

    I agree as well that even if they do release something new, that doesn't mean this version is dead. I can't see a team so passionate about their code and feature set letting anything languish.

    a new Deluge hardware could still use the same OS. imagine they make a x256 led matrix Deluge which you could pair via USB with the current Deluge and work on the same Song. i wouldnt mind buying :)

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    realms_of_chaosrealms_of_chaos United KingdomPosts: 18

    @Zeno said:
    Just wondering, realisticly speaking : how long will updates continued to be made for the deluge?

    The hardware patform is now about 3 years old.
    different sources on the internet say the machine still has plenty of power left to continue to add plenty of features.

    At the same time however I can imagine the company moving to a new hardware platform (just because they can, or perhaps to add more inputs and outputs)

    Has there been any speak of the intentions with the current deluge hardware platform in this aspect?

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    VJFranzKVJFranzK Los Angeles USABeta Tester Posts: 129

    they seem more dedicated to updating the firmware than 90% of the others! ;)
    the box is well built and you can replace the batteries later on.

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    darenagerdarenager Between a rack and a hardware placeBeta Tester Posts: 222

    It does very much seem that Synthstrom are committed to the current hardware, and that is definitely nice to see, it is more environmentally conscious, better support for existing customers and bodes well for those of us who like to keep their gear for many years.

    I can’t stand it when companies shit out a new box each year with all the features that were missing from the previous version, not only is it very wasteful but it (can also) demonstrate(s) that not enough thought went into the previous version.

    Having said this I do think the current hardware might have benefitted from a few extra buttons and controls to avoid all the combos that inevitably arise from a constantly added to feature set, sure it is a tough line to straddle, and to be fair most of the combos are fairly logical, but it will be interesting to see what the next hardware from Synthstrom will be like, whenever that may come.

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    hexagon5unhexagon5un MunichBeta Tester Posts: 121

    I really appreciate the Synthstrom business model: that the hardware design/optimization/manufacture is very hard, and that changing up the software underneath it is comparatively easy. That's why they built something with such a flexible and wide-open interface to begin with.

    Plus, they're a really small company (compared to Roland, Yamaha, etc.) with a limited marketing budget. Their best hope is to keep current users satisfied and keep the device always fresh for us so that we word-of-mouth them into more sales. They're never going to get to the market-saturation point that, say, a major-label keyboard gets to, so they don't need to come up with something new. And when they keep us happy, they keep used Deluges off of eBay, which would eat into their sales.

    I just bought one, after looking for years. I have a Yamaha RM1x as the sequencer in my setup, and it's great except for live entry. The whole "stop the sequencer, enter notes, continue playing" thing got me down. When the Deluge added in live MIDI looping, that was what pushed me over the edge. It's become just so ridiculously capable as a HW sequencer. But other people buy it for the synth engines, etc.

    Anyway, more features for less work, with more capabilities over time and thus new sales, while keeping old units off the used market. It's a great strategy. I hope it keeps working for a long while.

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