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3.2 Firmware Tease (MPE record and playback)

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Ian_JorgensenIan_Jorgensen Wellington, New ZealandPosts: 494

A further tease of the MPE functionality in the upcoming 3.2 Deluge firmware. (Release date still TBA)

In this first part of this video you'll see a Roli Seaboard sending MPE into a Deluge, which is re-outputting it (still as MIDI) to 'Surge', an MPE supporting softsynth. The Deluge can record and playback this data. Will work with MPE supporting hardware synths also.

In the following clip, the Deluge is recording and playing back the MPE data sent from the Roli Seaboard to control the Deluge's own internal synth engine. In this case, x is controlling pitch and y is moving position within a wavetable (new feature also coming in 3.2). Z, or pressure, is controlling level and filter cutoff.

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    vanklomkvanklomk United StatesPosts: 17

    So excited for this! Glad I picked up a Medusa recently.

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    BaddaddyBaddaddy South ElginBeta Tester Posts: 6

    This is EXCELLENT! thank you so much!

    Ian_Jorgensen
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    hurphendalehurphendale PragueBeta Tester Posts: 22

    MPE is a huge one! I'm this close to buying a Linnstrument now [--] :)

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    jonharsemjonharsem SydneyPosts: 1

    My Linnstrument and Roli Rise are excited .. also have an Erae Touch coming (eventually -___-) that ought to play nicely with the Delli'

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    Ian_JorgensenIan_Jorgensen Wellington, New ZealandPosts: 494

    make sure you do watch till the end to see MPE combined with Wavetable, it's a TON of fun :) We can't wait for people to get the opportunity to play with that

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    AndrewMAndrewM Brisbane, AUBeta Tester Posts: 11

    This is very exciting news :)
    It's worth noting that the MIDI Association have reformed the MPE working group to improve MPE support amongst devices as many devices have incomplete support.

    Will the Deluge be supporting Pitchbend Sensitivity as required by the specification? Is the Deluge going to act as a MPE MIDI Controller as well?

    I look forward to being able to do some compliance testing the Deluge when the Beta is released :)

    Andrew Mee

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    PercivalePercivale SingaporePosts: 19

    Good job!

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    MarkCGrantMarkCGrant United KingdomPosts: 1

    This is going to be a great year in many ways. For myself, I always wanted a Linnstrument since I saw Mr Linn do a prototype demo. As an Ableton Live user I didn't want to dilute the waters with a 2nd DAW just for MPE, so I decided to hold off on MPE till Ableton Live supports it. So was using the beta since December and ready to pull the trigger on a Linnstrument on Live 11 release, and also was looking for a Wavetable MPE synth - decided on the Argon8m. The week Live 11 comes out a spot a Linnstrument, as new, on eBay and I win it and been having so much fun designing and using MPE sounds. I was ready to get the Argon8m and saw that the Deluge 3.2 firmware will have Wavetable and MPE, I was aware of the Wavetable and others things coming. But MPE was a massive surprise. So you guys just saved me a nice wedge of notes - TY. Just a small question, will Deluge MPE support 'Lift'? I imagine 'velocity' is a given, and X,Y & Z is talked of, but no word on 'lift'?

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    sven_blobsven_blob France Beta Tester Posts: 14

    :p ooooooooooh yeah !!!

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    BurtrudeBurtrude U.K. Posts: 15

    Super-cool stuff guys!!! hoping one day we get full System Exclusive!!!

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    MyrkMyrk Bristol, UKPosts: 92
    edited April 10

    I assume with MPE support we might get standard polyphonic aftertouch support too? That immensely grey area... I'm still genuinely confused by what MPE will bring that wasn't already in the full Polyphonic midi message stream? My understanding is that MPE means if I plug a synth into Deluge in the future, in midi mode the cutoff filter will automatically control the cutoff filter of the synth without me having to assign, correct? It's about automatic setup and communication right?

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    HeptagenHeptagen Posts: 103

    @Myrk said:
    My understanding is that MPE means if I plug a synth into Deluge in the future, in midi mode the cutoff filter will automatically control the cutoff filter of the synth without me having to assign, correct? It's about automatic setup and communication right?

    Uh I don't think so. MPE is a technology that can only be used with MPE Midi controllers, like the Roli Seaboard. They make it possible to also send data by (for example) wiggling your fingers left and right (x axis) or sweeping them up and down (y axis).
    I believe this is where the modulators x and y come to play.

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    o_oo_o Beta Tester Posts: 20
    edited April 11

    My understanding is that MPE means if I plug a synth into Deluge in the future, in midi mode the cutoff filter will automatically control the cutoff filter of the synth without me having to assign, correct? It's about automatic setup and communication right?

    I think what you have in mind is MIDI 2.0, which is about automatic setup and better "understanding" between devices.

    Put simply, MPE just means: Every note you play is sent on its own MIDI channel. Then, if you wiggle a finger that's playing a note, those CC changes are sent on the MIDI channel of that note. Because every note is on a separate MIDI channel, you get separate modulation (and pitch bend) per note.

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    joeshjoesh BrusselsPosts: 41

    Nice teases, do you have any news on a release date for the update yet?

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    DekalboyDekalboy FrancePosts: 27

    2 months passed after the first announcement of this update . What’s going on synthstrom ? Please talk

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    SjonSjineSjonSjine NederlandPosts: 16

    @Dekalboy said:
    2 months passed after the first announcement of this update . What’s going on synthstrom ? Please talk

    I think the Eucledian sequencing, implemented in song and arranger mode could be a struggle for them. But the day you thought would never come, will come!

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    Leftarmist_BestarmLeftarmist_Bestarm Dirty SouthPosts: 7

    I have a Linnstrument if you need another test subject. :)

    Side note, the linnstrument has 128 "buttons" and the deluge has 128 as well used for the isomorphic keyboard. Imagine a partnership with Roger Linn where the LED button bed is replaced by the linnstrument LED key bed. That would be amazing.

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