Loop Screen / Cycle Region

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muleskinnermuleskinner Bath, UKPosts: 26

Unless I'm missing something - If you're editing a long pattern and want to work on the final bar there seems to be no way of doing this without listening to the entire sequence over and over. This gets pretty tedious, if not unworkable, when working on 8 bar patterns and over.

The Tempest has a toggle function 'loop screen' which just loops the currently visible area. I I think something like this is really needed on the Deluge - particularly as it can deal with such long track lengths.

Maybe this could be set in 'track' or 'song' mode?

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    rpc9943rpc9943 New York usaPosts: 140

    Could you explain how this would be implemented? Thanks!

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    muleskinnermuleskinner Bath, UKPosts: 26

    Here are a couple of possibilities... I think it probably makes sense to set the loop in 'song' view.

    So there's a way of toggling loop mode on and off. Maybe shift+play if that hasn't been used for anything yet. Perhaps the 'play' LED would flash on change colour if in 'loop' mode.

    Then, in the simplest scenario, the song would just loop round whatever visible area you had set in 'song' view. Would be easy to zoom in to a particular bar, loop it, then make all your edits in 'track' mode.

    A slightly more complex but more flexible scenario would be something like, if you have 'loop' toggled on, the bottom row of pads in 'song' mode display a 'cycle region'. This can be set in the same way you'd enter a tied note in the sequencer. The song would loop that region until the region was reset or until 'loop' was turned off (ideally the cycle region would be remembered for next time 'loop' was turned on.

    I could work with either of those - there may well be better ideas though!

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    rpc9943rpc9943 New York usaPosts: 140
    This would be great yes
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    HorstmaistaHorstmaista Los AngelesPosts: 43

    Yeah this would help a lot. I think the implementation could go along with the option to shorten track by bars.
    It would be great to have a mode where you press a button to get into 'bar-mode' directly (=4/4th), which gives you one lit button per bar in you track, then you can enable/disable/remove each bar separately.
    The difference to the regular 1 bar zoom out is that a.) you get there directly without dialing the zoom level and b.) disabling won't delete the notes but ignore the bar when playing and c.) would give you the option to change the length of the track by deleting bars in a whole.
    This would allow the user to just work on one bar without having to wait on it for the whole track to get back to it AND allow to shorten tracks without running into the issue of having odd-length parts and your melody to get off beat (which will cover a different issue / feature request).
    Hope this makes sense.

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    HorstmaistaHorstmaista Los AngelesPosts: 43

    One more thing this mode could add is that you could transpose each bar as a whole.

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    rpc9943rpc9943 New York usaPosts: 140
    I had also suggested this in a different thread :)
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    muleskinnermuleskinner Bath, UKPosts: 26

    I really like the idea of a 'bar select' where the selected bar(s) would loop and operations like transpose would apply to selected bar(s). I also really like the idea of being able to shorten tracks without things going out of time.

    This might be slightly different though as (presumably) it would on apply per-track - I think we need the option to cycle a region of the song, e.g. if you're working on a drum/bass fill that's on bar 8 you want to hear both parts looping together.

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    funktreefunktree NYPosts: 95
    edited May 2017

    Yes shift + play or double tap play to start to loop THE current view... if you need to zoom in you could still do it and edit notes with higher accuracy but the looping start/stop would be driven by what ever was on the 8x16 matrix when you engaged the loop section mode.

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    Lucky_LuxLucky_Lux PolandPosts: 14

    Yes, it is really important to start playing the bar you are working on. I found this necessary even on the first day I have worked with Deluge.

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    oltecoltec GermanyPosts: 2

    Yes , please i think so too. It´s very importantend to have a loop point in song mode and in track mode.

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    sinknoodlessinknoodles Vancouver, CanadaPosts: 28

    +1

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    alien_brainalien_brain DetroitPosts: 139

    +1

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    poldensteinpoldenstein italyPosts: 19

    +1

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    FilpalFilpal Paris, FrancePosts: 10

    +1

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    mpiecorampiecora United StatesPosts: 7

    +1

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    muleskinnermuleskinner Bath, UKPosts: 26

    Glad to see this getting a lot of '+1's - here's hoping this might be implemented soon :smile:

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    amiga909amiga909 SwitzerlandPosts: 77

    @Horstmaista said:
    Yeah this would help a lot. I think the implementation could go along with the option to shorten track by bars.
    It would be great to have a mode where you press a button to get into 'bar-mode' directly (=4/4th), which gives
    you one lit button per bar in you track, then you can enable/disable/remove each bar separately.

    reminds me of modstep ios. cool idea for sure. if each individual bar select can be midi learned, we could automate pattern variations.

    is it possible nobody mentioned there is a command to avoid playing from the beginning?
    hold <>-knob, press play
    starts playback from the current track screen

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    MatthewGeorgeMatthewGeorge Cologne, GermanyPosts: 135
    @amiga909 It's an early post from before that feature existed but good that you mentioned it here for future reference.
    I'd like the loop screen function as well as the play from view feature.
    It would be handy for editing and would have live applications too.
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