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Multi-sampling/ velocity layering

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IcoustikIcoustik NorwayModerator Posts: 600

Can we have multi-sampling/ velocity layering, to create more nuanced sounds/instruments for playing with an external controller with velocity sensitivity ?

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    IcoustikIcoustik NorwayModerator Posts: 600

    I'll just BUMP :)

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    MatthewGeorgeMatthewGeorge Cologne, GermanyPosts: 226
    Can you explain that a little deeper?
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    IcoustikIcoustik NorwayModerator Posts: 600
    edited August 2017

    Let's say u sample a real piano for example. And u sample the piano when u play really soft, semi-soft, a bit harder, medium, hard and really hard (depending on how many velocity 'levels' u want), because the timbre and sound of the piano is different depending on how hard it is played.

    Then u make those samples trigger in correspondance with the velocities of f.ex. the pads u play on a sampler, so that u can capture the variances in sound and the play-feel better.

    Also, if u sample a low C, a middle C and a higher C from the real acoustic piano, and make it so that the low C is being pitch-shifted (played and turned into different notes) in the lower ranges of the designated keyboard/ pads, the middle C in the middle range and the high C in the upper ranges, then the notes will sound more real :)

    And since there's no velocity sensitivity on the pads themselves on the Deluge, but there's velocity capabilities for either manual editing or with an external MIDI keyboard - we'd need to use a velocity sensitive external controller.

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    MatthewGeorgeMatthewGeorge Cologne, GermanyPosts: 226

    Yeah, I did some research on that. I can see how that would be great for lots of people.

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    TactileAFTactileAF Perth, Western AustraliaPosts: 21

    Good for drums too. You could do a basic 2 sample version of this if the OSC1 and OSC2 Volume-to-velocity mappings could be seperated

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    IcoustikIcoustik NorwayModerator Posts: 600

    Yeah word, I noticed that, that'll be a start :)

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    neilbaldwinneilbaldwin UKPosts: 53

    You can already do it a bit on kits. I just posted this on the Facebook group:

    Nice little 'velocity mapping' you can do on kits.
    Assign a snare to OSC 1. Assign a different snare to OSC 2.
    Set the volume of OSC1 and OSC 2 to 25.
    Map VELOCITY to the Volume of OSC1 @ -50 and then map it to OSC2 @ +50
    Stick some snares down on a track. Hold the pad and turn the X knob to change velocity. The lower the velocity the more the snare on OSC1 will be heard. The higher the velocity the more you'll hear the snare on OSC2.

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    funktreefunktree NYPosts: 107

    @TactileAF said:
    Good for drums too. You could do a basic 2 sample version of this if the OSC1 and OSC2 Volume-to-velocity mappings could be seperated

    Fully agree but the curve to flip the oscillators volume is still linear. A bit awkward for layering, I think we would need OSC3 or sample 3 and controlling velo/volume curve ... still +1

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    mrrafsmrrafs ukPosts: 49

    +1 for multi-sample velocity kits

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    cvgatecvgate Paris, FrancePosts: 9

    Oh yeah. That would be a game-changer for me. I definitely want that!

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    amiga909amiga909 Central EuropePosts: 915

    +1
    Would be a huge step into the domain of advanced hardware samplers as they are sadly not made anymore today (Emu, Akai, Roland, ..).

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    mrrafsmrrafs ukPosts: 49
    edited July 2018

    Velocity layered sample packs are becoming the norm for one-shots.. MPC live has them, as well as BM3 and SampleTank 2 (ios)
    ...ST2 has a 1/2 price sale this week on it's pro pack ( I am not affiliated in anyway - just happy that £23 get me 8velocity layered ok recordings of 500+ instruments. whoop whoop)

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    o0_o0_ SANTA MONICAPosts: 107

    Seem that this would be a specialized synth mode, rather than adding more stuff to the substractive synth.

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    fryyyyfryyyy germanyPosts: 154

    I've created a video tutorial how to do multi sample velocity mapping with the deluge kit creator.

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