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Euclidean Sequencing

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It is needed in modern music, y'all can do it better. you have the tech, I love your product.

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    VJFranzKVJFranzK Los Angeles USAPosts: 108

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    Salamndr1Salamndr1 CaliforniaPosts: 12

    @VJFranzK said:

    hey your in LA?! I think our machine needs this, lol.

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    minigoatminigoat cincinnati ohio usaPosts: 287

    +1
    be awesome to have just in kit tracks really

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    minigoatminigoat cincinnati ohio usaPosts: 287

    @alien_brain said:
    i think this just keeps you from developing the personality of a groove by the power of your own edit, which is based on trying and failing or refining until you get it 'there'. this is how a musician gets better imho. this would definitely appeal to a lot of people im sure. eh why not. could be interesting.

    i can see that being the case if its not pushed creatively, it becoming a cheap crutch. i can also see it as another way to build off of what your already feeling.
    Like a "jam" band or improv, drumcircle-esq way of building up rhythms and grooves. i just downloaded the java euclidean editor from: http://www.hisschemoller.com/blog/2011/euclidean-midi-patterns/
    ive found you can build up some really hypnotic grooves though. it only plots the steps and rotation, you still need to set the pitch, velocity, and duration.
    To me the art is in the -selection- of what fits the moment. nothing is really new under the sun and we all build off each other and what inspires us.
    im new to the idea of "euclidean sequencing" and +1 the idea after watching the yt video above...but now ive used that java one...i kinda think the deluge is already capable of this to an extent, with its ability to shorten track lengths? like i said, im not fully aware of what really defines this type of sequencing. Appears to just be semi-symmetrical poly rhythms?

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    IcoustikIcoustik NorwayPosts: 478
    edited April 2018

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=vwigqSwYNaQ

    This video also helped me understand more of the mathematics

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    Salamndr1Salamndr1 CaliforniaPosts: 12

    @alien_brain said:
    i think this just keeps you from developing the personality of a groove by the power of your own edit, which is based on trying and failing or refining until you get it 'there'. this is how a musician gets better imho. this would definitely appeal to a lot of people im sure. eh why not. could be interesting.

    I just think it should be an option, I love building beat's, and breaks but this just seems fun too!

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    Salamndr1Salamndr1 CaliforniaPosts: 12

    @minigoat said:

    @alien_brain said:
    i think this just keeps you from developing the personality of a groove by the power of your own edit, which is based on trying and failing or refining until you get it 'there'. this is how a musician gets better imho. this would definitely appeal to a lot of people im sure. eh why not. could be interesting.

    i can see that being the case if its not pushed creatively, it becoming a cheap crutch. i can also see it as another way to build off of what your already feeling.
    Like a "jam" band or improv, drumcircle-esq way of building up rhythms and grooves. i just downloaded the java euclidean editor from: http://www.hisschemoller.com/blog/2011/euclidean-midi-patterns/
    ive found you can build up some really hypnotic grooves though. it only plots the steps and rotation, you still need to set the pitch, velocity, and duration.
    To me the art is in the -selection- of what fits the moment. nothing is really new under the sun and we all build off each other and what inspires us.
    im new to the idea of "euclidean sequencing" and +1 the idea after watching the yt video above...but now ive used that java one...i kinda think the deluge is already capable of this to an extent, with its ability to shorten track lengths? like i said, im not fully aware of what really defines this type of sequencing. Appears to just be semi-symmetrical poly rhythms?

    I also think it would be fun to use it with multiple synths to write some weird stuff...

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    minigoatminigoat cincinnati ohio usaPosts: 287

    @Icoustik thanks for the link. so i guess the distribution maths would be the processing part for the deluge.
    you can already offset notes and change step length.
    @Salamndr1 could def get some weird going, but also some pretty nod worthy bits.

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    Salamndr1Salamndr1 CaliforniaPosts: 12

    @minigoat said:
    @Icoustik thanks for the link. so i guess the distribution maths would be the processing part for the deluge.
    you can already offset notes and change step length.
    @Salamndr1 could def get some weird going, but also some pretty nod worthy bits.

    I think our machine is just poly-rhythmic at the moment by using the formula that you provide above, I already do that, but the computer on board is pretty good, and to do a simple dance song I only be using like 8 or 9 patterns with crazy internal synths and sampling, not even scratching 8 gigs! So why not throw in the extra edge of math?

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    n00bn00b SpacePosts: 28

    Can't you achieve the same effect with turning on the 'sync-scaling' as shown in this video:

    https://youtu.be/tps_qmTq_PQ?t=12m12s

    'Bad sound kills good music!'

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    AkenAken MontrealPosts: 24

    @n00b said:
    Can't you achieve the same effect with turning on the 'sync-scaling' as shown in this video:

    https://youtu.be/tps_qmTq_PQ?t=12m12s

    No because euclidian rhythms use the current grid, i.e. if you change 16 step to 7 step it is like pushing <>+shift. The interesting thing in the euclydian algorythms is that they allow you to redistribute the filled steps in a snap.

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