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Delay and release tails when changing songs

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ELEVENELEVEN Zagreb, CroatiaPosts: 50
edited December 2019 in General

This would help a lot when performing live, to achieve smoother transitions.
currently only the reverb has a tail when song is changed, delay and release do not

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    IcoustikIcoustik NorwayModerator Posts: 625

    Reverbs and releases already do ring out when switching songs, only delays do not.

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    ELEVENELEVEN Zagreb, CroatiaPosts: 50

    oh do they really? sorry my bad 🤭

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    amiga909amiga909 Central EuropePosts: 955
    edited December 2019

    how do you get releases ring out Icoustik? reverb does, thanks for pointing out.
    my test song
    song A with 1 synth, no note data
    song B with 1 synth, clip is 1 note lasting half of the clip length, the synth preset has a very long release, so when i instant mute the clip the sound is still audible after 10s.
    now when i change from song B to A, the release is cut off. same with kit samples and high release setting.

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    ELEVENELEVEN Zagreb, CroatiaPosts: 50

    yes, i too can confirm this behaviour.
    i have edited the thread's name accordingly.

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    amiga909amiga909 Central EuropePosts: 955

    i am not sure if this is a realistic suggestion. at some point a Song load operation needs to free resources. reverb works because it is a global effect. unlikely most other effects there is only one reverb per song.
    if you load a project in a DAW or a song in Elektron device you get zero ring out of anything.

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    IcoustikIcoustik NorwayModerator Posts: 625

    @amiga909 said:
    i am not sure if this is a realistic suggestion. at some point a Song load operation needs to free resources. reverb works because it is a global effect. unlikely most other effects there is only one reverb per song.
    if you load a project in a DAW or a song in Elektron device you get zero ring out of anything.

    True :)

    Release did do it before, I just checked and now it doesn't. I'll ask Rohan

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    amiga909amiga909 Central EuropePosts: 955

    did upvote, if it is possible to have I am in. Maybe it was removed because it can lead to unwanted effects? Like what to do if a long release rings out for 30s and there is no way to mute because it belongs to a clip of the previous song. Release is probably safe mostly, delay tails with high feedback could be bigger problem.

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    ELEVENELEVEN Zagreb, CroatiaPosts: 50

    yes you guys are right regarding delays with high feedback. it could cause a mess.
    for now i use resamples of the previous song's tail, which works but is far from ideal as i have to mute the sample once it rings out.
    another approach is an external delay pedal on the master bus dedicated solely to transitions-this is a better option, but of course requires one extra thing to carry around.

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    ELEVENELEVEN Zagreb, CroatiaPosts: 50

    well i have bought a behringer x-air xr12 for my live rig, which enables me to apply some decent external delay+reverb on the master bus-making transitions between songs smoother 🙂
    problem solved.

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