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How to connect Novation LaunchControl XL

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I have a LaunchControl XL which frustratingly only has USB out for communicating MIDI and drawing power. Unfortunately the Deluge does not provide power over USB and I don't want to stretch for a Kenton USB MIDI host which isn't an inexpensive purchase and hard to find here in Canada.

I am not actually 100% sure if the Deluge can send/receive Midi via USB, and if it does could I simply use a powered USB hub to join the LaunchControl to the Deluge while providing it power. Being able to map all those lovely knobs and faders to the Deluge would be a joy!

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    IcoustikIcoustik NorwayPosts: 478

    In the upcoming 3.0 update, the Deluge can act as a USB-midi host and provide USB power when power is supplied to the Deluge via the 9-12V input :)

    Until then, you'd need an external host, yes.
    This is probably the cheapest option:

    http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/usb-midi-converter

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    stephencarrstephencarr CanadaPosts: 11

    As a side note here, when I plug in a 12v power supply the Deluge does not show the green light to indicate it has power. I am not sure if this is a defect or if I've done something wrong.

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    Tricep3Tricep3 United KingdomPosts: 10

    Hi Stephen,

    I have my LaunchControl XL hooked up to my deluge and it works great!

    I use a Raspberry Pi 3 model b+ as a USB host. It takes a bit of setting up but it's pretty simple to do. I'll give you a quick summary of that helps:

    You need to buy:
    1 x Raspberry Pi 3 model b+ Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BDR5PDW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_qda2Cb8JF1WYR

    1 x Raspberry Pi case
    Something like this Raspberry Pi 3 Case - Black/Grey https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01F1PSFY6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_fka2CbHS95VH3

    1 x micro SD card at least 4GB

    1 x micro usb power cable with 2A output

    Follow the instructions labeled "easy instructions" on this website:

    https://neuma.studio/rpi-as-midi-host.html

    I tried following the "complete instructions" but it didn't work so I'd recommend sticking to the easy instructions.

    I'm not claiming to be an expert on this, I'm just relaying the information on that website really so credit goes to Fabio Barbon and his colleagues at Neuma Studio.

    I've included a photo of my setup. In the photo I've got a battery pack powering the raspberry pi rather than a mains power supply. I did however find that my battery pack can't deliver enough power to power the LaunchControl and charge the Deluge so eventually the Deluge runs out of battery. When the Raspberry Pi is plugged into the mains though this isn't a problem.

    Of course you could just wait until the next firmware release in August when the Deluge will become a USB host and you could just plug the LaunchControl straight into the Deluge.

    Hope that helps :)

    Cheers

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    stephencarrstephencarr CanadaPosts: 11
    edited May 12

    Wow, that's a neat solution, thank you for the wonderful reply. I ended up booking up an iPad with a usb hub. The iPad becomes the usb host and I can route the LaunchControl from there. The iPad also gives me some interesting options for iPad hosted synths. Ultimately I think the v3 update will give me the paired down solution I am after though.

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    RandomAztecRandomAztec IrelandPosts: 80

    Raspberry pi users: check out patchbox by blokas labs it's an easy way to get a usb hub up and going..

    If anyone's interested the pisound hat for pi's is also a good soundcard soultion for the raspberry pi. Techobear has just released Orac for the pi and a host of multable instruments module ports ..so you can use the pi to process the deluge through rings clouds or pure data reverbs etc

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    stephencarrstephencarr CanadaPosts: 11

    Any links for the uninitiated? I am curious!

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    RandomAztecRandomAztec IrelandPosts: 80

    @stephencarr said:
    Any links for the uninitiated? I am curious!

    https://blokas.io/pisound/

    Check the forums for use cases.
    Modduo clone , pure data patches,organelle clone , Orac , and remote patching via android

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    IcoustikIcoustik NorwayPosts: 478

    @stephencarr said:
    As a side note here, when I plug in a 12v power supply the Deluge does not show the green light to indicate it has power. I am not sure if this is a defect or if I've done something wrong.

    Just make sure it's not a center-positive plug, it needs to be a center-negative one. Wrong polarity is not good :p

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    stephencarrstephencarr CanadaPosts: 11
    edited May 15

    Just make sure it's not a center-positive plug, it needs to be a center-negative one. Wrong polarity is not good :p

    I just read that in the manual, luckily I don't think I did any damage. Kind of weird that it uses a pedal power supply and not center positive like other gear. Maybe this is to deal with noise on the outlet or something like that??

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