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odd scales, tunings, microtonal stuff on a deluge?

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So first of all this is no 'the world ends without microtonal deluge tracks'r or 'we need to have feature X next with the next firmware update ' thing. Honestly I won't ever take advantage of the full feature spectrum and feell content with the box as it is.

I just asked myself what if I'd want to break out of the commonly used tonal system provided for by Deluge. Sure, you're not super restricted anyway in the sense that you can pull off key changes and/or custom scales without much fuss as it is.

But what if I'd want more than 7 notes, or explore just intonation or wander off reservation in similar fashion, I'd be happy to hear of a hack allowing you to tweak skale degrees in smaller than half tone steps, flattening and/ sharpening notes just so, Are any of you trying to do this with a deluge? I tried using CV tracks to create unquantised sequences, but that's cumbersome.

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    RhyminGarFunkleRhyminGarFunkle Tucson, AZPosts: 12

    You can get some microtonal stuff going on by sequencing the transpose parameter, but it's not super easy to do complicated stuff that way - you'd need to cut and copy the note to have another with the exact same pitch, for example. It's certainly not as convenient as having it available as a scale.

    I suppose you could make a sequence with whatever microtonal scale you wanted by automating the transpose, then resample different voices played through that sequence and play those notes as a kit. Again, cumbersome, but you could make it work. It would definitely be way easier if there were fewer restrictions on scales.

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    WillWill Middle of NowHere, CanadaPosts: 142

    At the moment, the Deluge seems to be a bit restrictive in this capacity.

    PERHAPS... there is another option which would be easier than what has been suggested:
    Use an external midi controller which allows microtonal scales. I'm not certain as to how the Deluge would respond, but perhaps there's an opportunity there to keep you busy, until a software update allows for such things...

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    amiga909amiga909 SwitzerlandPosts: 632

    external midi controller? u know which one? dont think it is possible? midi pitchbend can be used but it is a channel messgae, so it affects all held notes.
    related http://forums.synthstrom.com/discussion/284/true-custom-scales#latest

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    WillWill Middle of NowHere, CanadaPosts: 142

    @amiga909 said:
    external midi controller? u know which one? dont think it is possible? midi pitchbend can be used but it is a channel messgae, so it affects all held notes.
    related http://forums.synthstrom.com/discussion/284/true-custom-scales#latest

    I was thinking about the Linnstrument, not cheap, but very customizable, powerful and accurate....

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    amiga909amiga909 SwitzerlandPosts: 632

    Linnstrument is a very cool controller, have to try it one day.
    Deluge had to be MPE compatible for this. http://forums.synthstrom.com/discussion/comment/7248#Comment_7248

    The only way I can think of microtonal integration is using a modular synth (CV controlled) and adding a Midi to microtonal CV converter like this https://tubbutec.de/µtune/

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    WillWill Middle of NowHere, CanadaPosts: 142

    @amiga909 said:
    Linnstrument is a very cool controller, have to try it one day.
    Deluge had to be MPE compatible for this. http://forums.synthstrom.com/discussion/comment/7248#Comment_7248

    The only way I can think of microtonal integration is using a modular synth (CV controlled) and adding a Midi to microtonal CV converter like this https://tubbutec.de/µtune/

    I really loved my Linnstrument and will probably buy another one day. Very well designed, built and - like the Deluge, always being updated. Of course just because it is a MPE controller, it doesn't mean it has to be controlling a compatible sound source.
    Yes, the CV option sounds like a promising option. So few people (percentage wise) are into using Microtonal features, I can't see it being a big priority update...

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    71777177 (:Posts: 31

    oh wow thx for all the replies!

    I'm gonna tinker with some of your ideas, seems this wonderful box is fit for many many purposes, though not necessarily this one.

    I in any case "+1-ed" the 'true' custom scale request thread, Thx for bringing that up amiga909. I think that wouldn't be a stretch to implement and widely used, no?

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    NaderNader San FranciscoPosts: 6

    +1 for microtonal ability.

    Everything in the Middle East where I am from is microtonal so don’t be so sure that so few people are using microtonal stuff. We are talking about half a billion peoepl who listen to and play microtonal music there alone

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